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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24   #1
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Default The holier then thou attitude AKA elitests

This is one aspect of online games I dispise, yet every single one has them. These people with their "I'm better then you because your new" attitude. I HATE these people with a passion, just because I don't know a certain aspect of the game doesn't make you superior to me.

These people that look for reasons to make them selves seem superior to other players, usually by time spent playing. If someone doesn't know a certain aspect of the game, they usually start with the mockery and cries of "n00b" (god I hate that *profanity* word!). They expect everyone to know every little intricacy of the game right out of the box.

For *profanity* sake! Give people time to learn! Some of us have lives outside of the friggin game. These people and their attitude make it harder for new people to find groups and thus enjoy the game. These people tarnish our gaming time with bitching, mockery and inflated egoes. These people ruin the community, by spreading their god forsaken attitude to other people. Making some players feel this is how it needs to be, that new people really are the devil (or some tripe like that).

Well to all you people out there (you know who you are). CHILL THE *profanity* OUT! It's just game, some of people are still learning the ropes. Give them time, help them along. No I wont kick them from the party because they dont know what a smite is. No I wont kick them because their build isnt the way you think it should be, no I wont kick them because they dont have any rank.

Also "newbie" is not synomynous with "idiot", a new player isnt necessarily a bad player. Also a so-called "experienced" player isnt necessarily a good player. Just because your an asshole with a self-inflated sense of superiority doesn't make you superior. Don't be a prick in-game just because your a loser in real life. Don't be an ass to new players to make up for your life's inadequacies.

I could go on and on and on. But I'll end with this...Grow up people.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:28 PM // 19:28   #2
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Are you saying that you are holier than the people who you say are saying that they are holier than the "n00bs"?
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30   #3
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The elitist attitude you have mentioned is truly a microcosm of real life. You get elitists in games, and in everyday life. It does suck, but ya just need to not let it affect you to much.

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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:35 PM // 19:35   #4
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"n00bs" will eventually become elitests, who make fun of the "n00bs", who become elitests, and so on and so on.

It's a never ending cycle
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #5
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I try as hard as I can to stop this from starting. I'll take all the non-magic items I find late in the game and give them out to those poor blokes asking "Can you spot me some gold?" or "Could someone spare a good weapon?" They always appreciate it and ask me how I can pay them back.

I always tell them "Be nice to noobs later on."
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 07:56 PM // 19:56   #6
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Yeah, there will always be people with those attitudes but it really strikes me as both funny and sad that within a game that people will look down on others. Go to the strategy forums and you'll see quite a few people actually getting worked up and insulting people simply because they are new or just want to have a fun build instead of an "uber" one.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #7
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Trust me, it will never end. It's the reason a lot of them play these games - in real life, they feel inferior to everyone so they need a reality in which they are superior to most. I remember in EQ1 it was always, "not level 50 yet? oh I don't have to talk to you then. level 50, but you haven't been to the plane of fear yet huh? bye noob. oh, you haven't been to fear 50 times like me? don't waste my time. I'll just click my pegasus cloak and float my full-rubicite ass away". Don't try to fight it, they'll always have something on you, and the only way to beat them is to give up your life like they have, which isn't worth it.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 08:05 PM // 20:05   #8
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I was a noob once but just because i have finished the game with two characters doesn't make me any more superior.

For example, i am not a great team leader and prefer to follow others instructions, even if i know what to do myself. Sometimes i go with the flow and let other people make their own errors.

I like to look at my old screenshots which i randomly took when i was levelling my ranger. It makes me laugh to look at the basic skills i had and even my melandru's stalker which i miss at times (i traded him for a lizard) .

I hate the imperialist attitude too and the OP is right.

Imperialist spammer types...

RUNNING ppl to elona for ONLY 1K Pay half now and half when we get there!! I have b33t the game and can pwnzoored.com any enemy!!!!11

My reply...

Looking for people i can run to Elona for only 0k!! If you make it with me i will pay YOU 1K!!

Imperialist spammers reply...

STFU qu**** f****** b******


/screenshot saved as c: program files/guildwars....
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #9
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ran across such a person- a monk of all people! we were doing d'alessio mission, people wanted the bonus so i thought fine. I start going and killing everything , the monk kept saying wait wait wait because the so called leader hasn't loaded. I do just fine, thye caught up, we got to the village, I said don't kill the random mobs, head straight for banik, they ignored me, banik dies, oh well, I ignore them and keep going to confessor doric, died once on the way when 5 ghouls surrounded me. I got a res with namecalling and flaming, and bragging that he knows EVERYTHING about the game and that he won't heal me anymore. I said Fine I won't do not one thing then I headed to confessor Doric and did nothing at all but just stand there at the shrine until the end of the mission. when we hit divinity I left the group. I hate braggarts and smart alecs lik that.

some people say I may be a jerk for doing that, but the monk purposedly made everybody who hasn't played through the mission before fail the bonus to lack of knowledge for giggles.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38   #10
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I know there will always be people like that, but why are they the majority? Or at least it seems that way, I have a hard time getting into a group without 5 or 6 of em.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 09:51 PM // 21:51   #11
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i kno, i hate those kind of ppl too, esp in the beginnin when the game was first released, yea i kno there was a beta, but f***, do you have to go around calling everyone a noob just b/c they didn't play it? i remember i get a lot of bad talk from this one guy cus i didn't kno what a sigil was, wtf, ive played for 2 days and ur giving me a hard time??? i always like to go to towns and if i see ppl askin for help, i like to help 'em out, cus there were a few good ppl willing to help me out

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I try as hard as I can to stop this from starting. I'll take all the non-magic items I find late in the game and give them out to those poor blokes asking "Can you spot me some gold?" or "Could someone spare a good weapon?" They always appreciate it and ask me how I can pay them back.

I always tell them "Be nice to noobs later on."
yea, i do the same, ppl askin for gold or for items, i just give it to them, i rmember a guy in ascalon wanted to buy 3 iron, and i went to him and i gave him the 3iron +117 more iron and about 15 steel. just wish ppl would stop givin players such a hard time, i mean, s**t, you weren't always as great as you think you are now
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 09:55 PM // 21:55   #12
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Skill sometimes comes with experience. Especially in a game where making a perfect build is the key to victory. If you go and play any game that you are new to, do you expect to win every time using perfect strategies? How bout get headshots every time? Of course not. If you're new, you are bound to suck for a bit. It's nothing you can't get over.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57   #13
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Uh, why do you care what people say?
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00   #14
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I tend to have an elitist attitude, but I usually keep it to myself. I hate those who have such an elitist attitude and have to prove how elite they are by opening their mouths and being general assholes about it.

If you know you're better then the person, then it's your responsibility to teach them what they don't know. If you don't want to team with newbies, by all means don't. Go team with other elitists and you can brag to each other as much as you want. Leave the poor newbies alone, for they will in time become just as elite and will probably be in your party anyway later on.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09   #15
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I don't think that I'll ever be able to have an elitist attitude within this game; I've been playing since the beta and I still feel like a n00b.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #16
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I haven't had the pleasure of partying with any elitists or with many nubes.

I feel lucky
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15   #17
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I hate the imperialist attitude too and the OP is right.

Imperialist spammer types...

RUNNING ppl to elona for ONLY 1K Pay half now and half when we get there!! I have b33t the game and can pwnzoored.com any enemy!!!!11

My reply...

Looking for people i can run to Elona for only 0k!! If you make it with me i will pay YOU 1K!!

Imperialist spammers reply...

STFU qu**** f****** b******


/screenshot saved as c: program files/guildwars....
Didn't your mom teach you not to pray on less fortunate people…. Lol

On a side note, not all people that have been around since the first betas are like that, I actually got served the same thing myself last night just because I was in L.A. with a level 11 and I’m one that’s been around for a while.

Was picked up in a group and then told I was too low level and needed to play the game a bit more to *learn and level* (their words). I laughed it off when I was kicked, before they even thought of asking or noticing I had the appropriate armor and all possible skills opened for my level and location.

I don’t think it’s related to level and how long have you played the game but how and why you play the game, oh and maybe just a bit of narrow mindedness mixed in there.

I do have to admit I’m slightly asking for it since I also had to make this character a Ne/Me…. Oh are we ever misunderstood, but things are slowly turning around. Still never had so much problems getting in a group in my GW gaming time… lol

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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #18
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Instructions are as follows:

1.) Click the little triangle in your chat bubble
2.) Take the check mark out of "local" chat and "emotes."
3.) Close and play the game as desired.

Problem solved.
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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:25 PM // 22:25   #19
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Y'know, funny thing... there was an acquaintance of mine who said
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I think in all online games you end up making some good friends while avoiding the jerks. I don't know that MMOs are any better than non-fee games - not in my experience anyway. I said hi to someone I knew from alpha when I came across them in Arena and got this from someone on their team: "stfu noob get a life"...
I mean, imagine—calling Scrivener a noob. It's like calling GhostRaptor a 'scrub'.

Weird.

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Old Jun 20, 2005, 10:47 PM // 22:47   #20
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but the monk purposedly made everybody who hasn't played through the mission before fail the bonus
Had a similar thing happen the other night. I started a new character and had gotten to the Nolani mission, and spent a good 20 minutes putting together a team to do the mission and bonus, you know the one with the ghosts - I'd done that bonus three times already and knew it well. The group kept saying we needed a real monk (though Alesia would have been fine), and when one teleported in they were like "get him" and "that guy, grab him!" and so I did.

We get into the mission and the monk says, "Oh, this one. great. follow me." I ask if he'd done it before, and mentioned I had as well. He tell us that he's ascended two characters already, and starts barking orders to everyone. Just as I'm about to lead the group toward the bonus, the monk says, "screw the bonus. not doing it." I say, "I know the bonus. We can do it." And he says, "no, you all are too weak to do the bonus and i won't be able to keep you alive."

Now in the last mission I was in, all of my teammates died at one point and each one dropped (to my disappointment and surprise) before letting me res them (I carry Ressurect), leaving me all alone in the mission. So here I am, a lvl 9 death magic necro, alone with the bonus and mission ahead of me... the bonus with the four flame keepers and then having to escort Rurik across the bridge with the Charr onslaught at the end. Well I went ahead by myself and successfully completed both the bonus and the mission.

So I say to this monk, "lol, I just completed the last mission solo. I really think we can handle the ghosts. That's what the others signed up for." The others all said they would like to do the bonus as well. And the monk says, "you go ahead and do it then, and then die. i'm not doing it."

Needless to say we rushed through the mission like a bat out of hell, without doing the bonus, all the while listening to this uber lvl 10 monk barking orders and talking down to us like we were little kids. Not fun.

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